C&L's Late Nite Music Club with <I>Carmina Burana</i>

Purists, don't kill me. I love Orff's Carmina Burana too. This is just something... a little different. There are all kinds of versions-- dozens of them, some way crazier than this one-- but here's the techno remix. Enjoy-- if you can. (By the way, you know this song was commissioned by Hitler, based on two dozen medieval poems, right? That's probably why Hannity uses it to introduce his radio show.)

 



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KMFDM had a few bars of this in one of their songs....and they got sued for copyright infringment. Is it public domain already?

Mitt Romney may have bought today's Iowa Republican Straw Poll, but history mercifully shows that the winner rarely ends up in the White House.

For the details, see:
"Flashback: Pat Robertson Wins 1987 Iowa Straw Poll."

3 times in 24 hours. a record?
1st,

Angry One @ 2:

Mitt Romney may have bought today's Iowa Republican Straw Poll, but history mercifully shows that the winner rarely ends up in the White House.

For the details, see:
"Flashback: Pat Robertson Wins 1987 Iowa Straw Poll."

Wow. Maybe it's some kind of ritual to purge evil spirits out of the running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAg5kTLeMh4 that song sound like ....welllllll.

one of the creepiest things I ever heard on the radio was a piece on NPR describing Rumsfeld watching footage of shock and awe in the green zone with Carmina Burana as the soundtrack. Kind of ruined it for me actually, in ways far worse than "The Omen" or any movie, ever could.

Description here:

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2006/04/rumsfailed.html

Carmina Burana is wonderful. I saw it live with about six different choruses singing together and almost couldn't stand up afterwards. Devastating music. Thanks.

Carmina Burana was a great band from Portland, OR that was all woman and featured members who have all co-written or played on hit songs in the past 10 years. This youtube clip is crap.

I dunno, Howie. I kinda like it.

I love "Carmina" and I, too have always been conflicted on Orff's connection to the Nazi regime. But the lyrics are based on not just medieval poetry, but medieval student drinking songs. And most of those students were studying for the priesthood. Go figure. The lyrics themselves are more akin to the late medieval French poet, Francois Villon, who's Testament poems resemble much of this, and to which Brecht put to good use when writing the lyrics to "ThreePenny".

Thanks for sharing.

Carl Orff should receive credit for introducing the Goliard Monks and their "profane songs" to the world.
Those Goliards were some crazy brothers!
Hannity may not be aware that O Fortuna is based on pagan mythology.....he probably chose it because it "really sounded cool".

Orff was routinely accused of being sympathetic to Hitler, to my knowledge this is something he denied.Personally, given Hitlers fascination with Wagner - who is more comic than Orff - I find it difficult to believe that Hitler was involved. And while it is true that Hitler had a private fascination with art by Jews, Orff was Catholic.

It is more likely that failed composers that resented Orff are responsible for such claims.

Hitler connection or no, Carmina Burana is one of the finest pieces of art ever created by humanity.

mudshark @ 14:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aV7CoZ84fM...just for shits and giggles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aV7CoZ84fM ok I screwed up the first one

I see no evidence that the Carmina was commissioned by Hitler. In fact, from what I can tell, the piece was not in favor amongst the Nazi hierarchy until after it became popular (politicians don't change much, do they). Once Orff was a favorite, he did recieve at least one Nazi commission, but it was music for "A Midsummer Night's Dream," not the Carmina Burana. Wikipedia claims he dedicated the piece to Hitler, but again there is no citation for this claim.

I think you should retract the comment unless you have evidence.

shit howie,

tony wilson dies....and no rip?? no mention at all??

the guy who put the pistols on uk tv for the first time?? the guy who created the rave?? who helped to found the manchester sound??

well....here are 2 bands that wilson discovered

joy division....transmission (opens with wilson )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFklR731N7k

happy mondays...kinky afro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pblzx_Qw9xI

Even being a quasi-purist (I prefer the old Chicago Symphony version of Carmina Burana best), I have to say...

... I rather like this. I'd hope that it gets a bit of exposure in the dance clubs, just so the usual know-nothing 20-somethings get a taste of what else might be on tap...

Excellent find.

I don't think it matters much what Orff's politics were. A work of art is a work of art.

The fascists paid lip service to certain kinds of aesthetics, which made some artists grovel. Witness Pound and Mussolini. Benito never gave a whit what Pound wrote, but ol' Ez thought the world of Il Duce. And still wrote great poetry. And late in his life, came to regret it.

What's with the opening graphic? Mozart didn't write Carmina Burana. REALLY bad placement if indeed they knew better.

i would like to add one more thought about tony wilson....and someone should relay this to michael moore

his doctors recommended that he go on a therapy that would cost 3500 english pounds a month, and nhs refused to ok the funds

so there we have a managed care horror story

(Carmina buarana...sung to the tune of "Let's Call The Whole Thing Off"

You say CarMEEnah,
I say, CarMAhnah,
You say, BurEENa,
I say, BurAHna,
Carmeena, Carmahna,
Bureena, burahna,
Let's Carl the whole thing Orff.

I've just found this one hour and eleven minute performance of the whole thing, and I'm really hoping it dispells the creeps from the techno version.... Just at the clapping phase in the beginning right now, but I am hopeful.

Let's tear it up!

Dropkick Murphys: "Barroom Hero/Skinhead on the MBTA"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr4AWIIgYyI

[Deleted. Wacko conspiracy theory]

Hiya, nonny! Nice to see ya at the LNMC!

The Fancy Ray Program

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8RcA2k_G4

Much more than pet-bloggin'.

That's the best you could come up with? [deleted--no, it's not. The commenting policy requires that you keep your posts civil to the site, to the community AND to its contributers.]

Site Monitor: The whole point of the LNMC is to take a break from politics and find a community through the shared experience of music. Please, link to some of your favorites. Tell us why they're your favorites. But your opinion of whether someone is qualified to be a contributer is not adding to the community.

> sally simson Says:

Uh, by chance did you misspell your pseudo?

I love *ALL* the Simpsons!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3TechfPSO0

krome @ 28:

That's the best you could come up with? Spoiler alert: Ad Hominem Attack comin' up.

Howie is probably the least qualified, if only because he was a record exec, to choose music for this blog. Why do we keep touching back to him? I mean, I know John's sick and stuff but Nicole seems spry enough and some of these other people...why not open it up for suggestions. The best thing I get from LNMC is often the links folks publish in the comments.

[deleted].

I certainly understand yer sentiment even though I don't agree with ya very much...I got my reasons...

But be polite, huh? What's it hurt to keep it to yerself?

:)

krome-

Just raise the Jolly Roger my friend. Post what ya will in the comments. I've done it at least a hundred times, I figure. No harm in it.

> Howie is probably the least qualified, if only because he was a record exec, to choose music for this blog.

So let's get Carl Finch (of Brave Combo fame) to post threadstarters on the LNMC!!!! Oh yeah, I forgot, he's a record executive (he owns Four Dots records.) ;-)

uncle joe mccarthy @ 17:

shit howie,

tony wilson dies....and no rip?? no mention at all??

the guy who put the pistols on uk tv for the first time?? the guy who created the rave?? who helped to found the manchester sound??

well....here are 2 bands that wilson discovered

joy division....transmission (opens with wilson )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFklR731N7k

happy mondays...kinky afro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pblzx_Qw9xI

No shit! I caught the Steve Coogan movie about Wilson a few years back. Fun flick, I learned a few things.

Buzzcocks

What Do I Get?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jn3BTfAqFfI

I see the noncom-poops are out in force tonight. Sieg Heil! Howie!

Hmmmm... Love Carmina, not too sure about this techno remix. I like parts of it, but there's too much repetition and the continuous and persistent beat gets old FAST. Would like it a bit *more* re-mixed.

Flash and the Pan: Man In The Middle -

http://youtube.com/watch?v=13MaCVGAuxs

Beatbox flute - check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ZX5qdIEB0

Brave Combo: Robertin Roberton -

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Hw4ZPXNzZE

Hannah- Nice!

Jean-Pierre Rampal et Claude Bolling

Javanaise(from Suite For Flute And Jazz Piano Trio)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKx14ZLtCYI

I'm turning Javanaise, I think I'm turning Javanaise ...

Stanley Rosenthal @ 41:

I'm turning Javanaise, I think I'm turning Javanaise ...

Gotta case of the Vapors, pal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br-3JPUYEA8

:-)

:-)

Ok, I new at commenting here. But a coupla things:

1. I know comments meander.

2. I like the song "Turning Japanese" alot. My wife saw the boys in a Catch a Rising Star concert back in '80 or '81. For $3.50. That said, what does this have to do with the Carmina Burana?

> 2. I like the song “Turning Japanese” alot. My wife saw the boys in a Catch a Rising Star concert back in ‘80 or ‘81. For $3.50. That said, what does this have to do with the Carmina Burana?

Possibly nothing? This is a music club, and there's no requirement to talk about the threadstarter here. We're just some music fans that like to hang out together and discuss/post whatever music that comes to our minds at the time.

Pavorotti sings into your soul...Una Furtiva Lagrima

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KxyrphGgLh4

I first heard of the Vapors and heard Turning Japanese when I heard/saw Schwantz Lefantz cover the tune. They used to all wear umbrella caps on their heads when they played the tune.

Actually, this is my all-time favorite rendition of the Carmina Burana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07gKacNHf1w

It's what we should be doing. It's what we should be doing without let up until we get our country back.

Howie Klein has my deep and undying love for not giving a a flying fuck in general (which is how I have always pictured him) and espcially to not give a damn about all the haters who climb these walls every night when they see something they think is "wrong."

In case the url didn't work, just go to Utube & search Una Furtiva Lagrima Pavorotti
sorry!

Howie's picks are always a warm to the heart. Always a surprise always just right.
Howie's not afraid to appear corny. He's a romantic all the way.

Stanley Rosenthal @ 45:

> 2. I like the song “Turning Japanese” alot. My wife saw the boys in a Catch a Rising Star concert back in ‘80 or ‘81. For $3.50. That said, what does this have to do with the Carmina Burana?

Possibly nothing? This is a music club, and there's no requirement to talk about the threadstarter here. We're just some music fans that like to hang out together and discuss/post whatever music that comes to our minds at the time.

Thanks for the heads up, Stanley. Didn't know the protocol here. If it's an open music thread, then I will be the last one to kvetch. And I do like the song, as I said.

SeattleDan @ 44:

Ok, I new at commenting here. But a coupla things:

1. I know comments meander.

2. I like the song "Turning Japanese" alot. My wife saw the boys in a Catch a Rising Star concert back in '80 or '81. For $3.50. That said, what does this have to do with the Carmina Burana?

Glad ya liked the Vapors!

Answer to yer question: These are dangerous waters fer a landlubber:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLcRluVbjJ0

99 @ 48:

Actually, this is my all-time favorite rendition of the Carmina Burana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07gKacNHf1w

It's what we should be doing. It's what we should be doing without let up until we get our country back.

Um..YEAH!!!!

sphinx @ 49:

Howie Klein has my deep and undying love for not giving a a flying fuck in general (which is how I have always pictured him) and espcially to not give a damn about all the haters who climb these walls every night when they see something they think is "wrong."

Glad to see ya made it home safely- and in fightin' trim! ;)

Here's the Donizetti crazylove was trying to post:

Una Furtiva Lagrima

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4jykAYgeXjM

Howie -
> ... (By the way, you know this song was commissioned by Hitler, ... That’s probably why Hannity uses it to introduce his radio show.)

The Nazis/KKK'rs will come disguised as mediamorons who think they're so pretty that they can't understand why outed gays outproduce them, financially speaking. :-)

sphinx @ 54:

99 @ 48:

Actually, this is my all-time favorite rendition of the Carmina Burana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07gKacNHf1w

It's what we should be doing. It's what we should be doing without let up until we get our country back.

Um..YEAH!!!!

That vid so totally rocks! I watch it whenever I feel too disheartened... which would be every other day or so.

Oops, I think I just confused Hannity with Tucker Carlson. My bad but they're both Nazis/KKK'rs IMHO anyway.

Actually, I'm liking this take on the Pavarotti better:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Funp7JTWp2A

Flash and the Pan: Media Man (single version) -

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C_GqLMrwT-M

Andy, Brave Combo covered that (as My Girl Lollipop), let me see if I can find that or upload it ...

Ok, My Girl Lollipop as covered by Brave Combo from the Four Dots era -

http://www.thesequencers.us/various/BraveCombo-MyGirlLollipop.mp3

GREAT POST HOWIE!!!

THIS IS THE BEST SONG EVER!!

Faith Hill: This KISS -

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OnR2udkzYsY

"This KISS this KISS
It's subliminal"

I thought she said it's criminal, Stan.

Sarah McLachlan - Fallen (Danish Music Awards)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT96OlPG6r0&mode=related&search=

Emilie Simon - Desert (french)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI_nkXUpvJk

I still have not heard the Carmina done any better than by James Levine and the Chicago Symphony.

Gilbert & Sullivan-Baby got Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4

I came to know this song from 1981’s Excalibur and always associated Oh Fortuna with that movie. Then everybody started using it, from Michael Jackson to Ozzy. Most likely most of those commenting know the full Carmina Burana “opera”. It’s not really all Latin, nor all German (some French and English thrown in for measure). For those who don’t know the lyrics – here they are:

(Original)
O Fortuna
velut luna
statu variabilis,
semper crescis
aut decrescis;
vita detestabilis
nunc obdurat
et tunc curat
ludo mentis aciem,
egestatem,
potestatem
dissolvit ut glaciem.

Sors immanis
et inanis,
rota tu volubilis,
status malus,
vana salus
semper dissolubilis,
obumbrata
et velata
michi quoque niteris;
nunc per ludum
dorsum nudum
fero tui sceleris.

Sors salutis
et virtutis
michi nunc contraria,
est affectus
et defectus
semper in angaria.
Hac in hora
sine mora
corde pulsum tangite;
quod per sortem
sternit fortem,
mecum omnes plangite!

(English Translation)
O Fortune,
like the moon
you are changeable,
ever waxing
and waning;
hateful life
first oppresses
and then soothes
as fancy takes it;
poverty
and power
it melts them like ice.

Fate - monstrous
and empty,
you whirling wheel,
you are malevolent,
well-being is vain
and always fades to nothing,
shadowed
and veiled
you plague me too;
now through the game
I bring my bare back
to your villainy.

Fate is against me
in health
and virtue,
driven on
and weighted down,
always enslaved.
So at this hour
without delay
pluck the vibrating strings;
since Fate
strikes down the string man,
everyone weep with me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HptWrEoZFNA The Waterboys...Fishermans Blues

Radically Moderate @ 74:

Gilbert & Sullivan-Baby got Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4

now this is funny...lol

Why Doesn't the youtube for the Waterboys.."This is the Sea"...post?

First, i *like* all forms of electronic music. That said ...
Apart from the somewhat lacking sound quality, this piece is highly professional junk. Excellent production of a potpourri of standard techno elements with some well-known classic sample thrown in for the kick. The only original thought in this is the use of a timpani whirl instead of snares in the end, but then the breakbeat loop just enforces the mediocreness.
Subway sure tastes fine, but would you consider it cooking ? This is the musical equivalent...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMz8fKkG2g John Posted this last year on the LNMC....I find it particularly moving.

Big thanks for the link to the live Carmina Burana -- I love the 2 piano version. The Claude Bolling link is terrific, too (note that other movements from the performance are available on the side).

And especially thanks to people who give links that say what they are, instead of just posting something and saying "Check this out!" As the Amazing Johnathon says when he pulls out the 'Chinese' linking rings that are already linked: "Saves us some time!"

Not sure if this wasn't offered here recently or not, but what the heck. Ravel's concerto for the Left Hand [Leon Fleischer], part 1, and part 2. There's also a version with a different performer, but I haven't listened to that one yet, and I already know that Fleischer does a superb job on this incredible piece of music (which is played entirely by one hand, which juggles three threads in the stunning cadenza at the end).

The header said... "this is how Mozart should be played" Did the guy think Carmina Burana was writtenb by Mozart?

Yes, nothing like the music of Fascism to get the juices flowing, is there? There are days when I really wonder about "Crooks and Liars", where I speculate if you'd join in on a little torchlit parade or maybe smash a shop window or two. But it's just a fleeting thought and I'm sure we'd all be in good hands if you're ever in a position of authority.

Andy K @ #40: LOVED the Javanaise. Thanks! :-)

Sacrilegious ! Sacrilegious ! Thou shall repent, ye heathen Howie !

If you really insist on desecrating that master piece, then you should try the much shorter and superior promo piece for Sensation White 2004

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFyw-RIw0ic

Ok. I love techno and listened to the whole thing. It made me feel icky. I don't like being so agitated by music and needed a psychic cleansing. Here's the antidote ... not at all related but it did the trick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8SeboqfJR0

SeattleDan @ 10:

I dunno, Howie. I kinda like it.

I love "Carmina" and I, too have always been conflicted on Orff's connection to the Nazi regime. But the lyrics are based on not just medieval poetry, but medieval student drinking songs. And most of those students were studying for the priesthood. Go figure. The lyrics themselves are more akin to the late medieval French poet, Francois Villon, who's Testament poems resemble much of this, and to which Brecht put to good use when writing the lyrics to "ThreePenny".

Thanks for sharing.

This was one of the UGLIEST things I have ever heard!
Why do the teenie-boppers have to dumb down every-thing? I think the Orff family may still own the rights
to this masterpiece. They should sue the Hell out of
who is responsible.

AbbeyHoffmansGhost @ 73:

I still have not heard the Carmina done any better than by James Levine and the Chicago Symphony.

My choice is Herbert Blomstedt with the San Francisco Symphony on London/Decca...sublime!

Mr Mark @ 22:

(Carmina buarana...sung to the tune of "Let's Call The Whole Thing Off"

You say CarMEEnah,
I say, CarMAhnah,
You say, BurEENa,
I say, BurAHna,
Carmeena, Carmahna,
Bureena, burahna,
Let's Carl the whole thing Orff.

Mr Mark ~ did you make that up? It's great!

I hate to contradict here but I am unable to find anything that says that this piece of music was commissioned, or dedicated to Hitler. Infact, I found a quotation in this document:

http://www.xavier.edu/classics/Theses/Themes%20of%20the%20Carmina%20Bura...

Here is the quote:

The Nazis criticized the Carmina Burana when it premiered. The piece did not fit in with their ideals and ideologies. They liked the music but not the words. Goebbels wrote, “. . . his ‘Carmina Burana’ exhibits exquisite beauty, and if we could get him to do something about his lyrics, his music would certainly be very promising.”67

Tim

pardon me while i laugh uproariously at the "teeny boppers" reference...

the techno version here by Apotheosis is something like fifteen or sixteen years old unto itself, as i remember hearing it for the first time at a beautifully depraved and debauched rave back in the early 90's

Crapture, so true. But there's even more involuntary humor in the original comment.

Donald Waits @ 87:

This was one of the UGLIEST things I have ever heard!
Why do the teenie-boppers have to dumb down every-thing? I think the Orff family may still own the rights to this masterpiece. They should sue the Hell out of who is responsible.

Well, guess what, Donald? This is exactly what happened. The Orff family sued Apotheosis and of course won. The record was removed from sale and has, of course, become quite a collector item (despite being a pretty darn lousy piece, IMHO).

#92: This is not Apotheosis. They had two versions (standard and Obumbratta mix) which were very good. The clip here is absolute crap.

Here's the Apotheosis version, which does not suck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO99j2n2rM4

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