Beethoven's piano sonatas are among the greatest works of music ever composed. In my opinion, of course...
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Talk about long hair music!
A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3iPP-tHdA&feature=related
Beethoven was acclaimed as the greatest pianist in Europe at the age of 18. The unique thing about his piano compositions is they are unlike the works of other pianists (Lizt, Chopin) by the absence of piano specific idioms. (Turns, trills, etc). From the perspective of composition, they could (and have been) played on any instrument.
I use to try and play this on the piano. Funny it never sounded like this guy's version...
Arthur Rubinstein - Etude de Chopin n°1 op
Just beautiful.
Now for the bad news.
Consider - for purposes of composition - the American composer Samuel Barber (who was wrongly criticized by copeland) and the sparse essence of his musical expression.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV3SHBFyDZM
Beethoven? I wish he was dead? He is? Good!
Beethoven never had the balls to write something this cool.
the moonlight is the best of the piano sonatas, imo.
meanwhile, over at skippy, we've got an oboe and flute concerto by beethoven's teacher, antonio salieri (yes, the guy in the amadeus movie!) and it ain't too bad...
but if you really must have beethoven we've also got the fourth movement of the 9th ("ode to joy") symphony, conducted by the master, leondard bernstein...
Who is playing please?
A Fifth of Beethoven?
Nope. Better.
I've always loved classical piano music ... that pianist is a true genius ... and not a sheet of music in front of him. Anybody know what his name is ? Thanks for a great selection.
Art.
a masterpiece of a different kind
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2008/06/18/noin...
Wilhelm Kempf....and while not a technically perfect performance, is absolutely riveteing....
Each generation has its own music.... but this music belongs to every generation. I just hope that with the darth of music appreciation in the schools, that our kids will be able to "connect" with this music as they do with their won.
Moonlight Sonata is one of my favorites. Here's one from Bach.
Yngwie Malmsteen - Air on G String
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjCavHWBRHg&feature=related
Noise?
That's my favourite piano sonata.
The pianist is Vladimir Horowitz.
skippy @ 9:
If its the Berlin performance, you are wrong. Bernstein used the name - Ode To Freedom, not Joy.
bjosephs @ 14:
UNFORGIVEABLE TYPO!!!!!!
*pointing and laughing*
Sorry, dude, but, ROFLMFAO!
Yeeeps!
Wilhelm Kempff.
How embarrassing.... This is what I get for being up past my bedtime.
Debussy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLbpQl1cCl8
calgarylady @ 12:
Amen, calgarylady!
Ludwig Van was The Man in many ways. His nine symphonies are magnificent as well. True fans should look for the Cleveland Orchestra versions conducted by George Szell...back when they were literally the best in the world.
Thanks, John.
Ain't it just about Buffy time?!? :)
numfar @ 24:
I don't know numfar. why don't you ask on the open thread?
It's Kempff, but anyway if you really want to see something, find the Glenn Gould video of this. Kempff was very good but he is very old at this time and has some trouble. Gould plays it like the tornado it is.
And this piece has turns and trills so what are you talking about. The thing that made Beethoven's piano music so great was that he expanded the keyboard and forced piano makers to make stronger pianos because Beethoven would break them.
Angel Of Mercy @ 23:
Szell was good. Have you heard Bruno Walter with the Chicago?
trevjr @ 26:
Not what I said. Lizt and Chopin write music using idioms for piano as a crutch. Their compositions amount to little more than collections of idioms.
Not so Beethoven. Listen to Moonlight on guitar. It does not sound like a piano piece.
Nervous.
GNA!
miss_kitty @ 25:
OOPS!
My bad!
Sorry, I'm a little OCD :)
Wagner
Hi you guys, I've been lurking. Not much to say today.
But you know me, I'm around(like a donut)
The Beatles-Roll Over Beethoven
miss_kitty @ 33:
OK, I'll see your Beatles and raise you ELO, Roll Over Beethoven
Breakfast
trevjr @ 26:
While you're at it, check out Gould's version of The Tempest, it is Fabulous... I've been trying to get the third mvmnt. down for months now, and it still eludes my fingers.... damn my small hands, damn those cross-overs!!!
Hello, again, miss kitty and mudshark. I'm not sure which version of that song I like the best. The Beatles version is classic but I also like the strings in the ELO one, too. Anyway, thanks to you both !
Speaking of piano music again, I'd like to see an Oscar Peterson tribute sometime. Perhaps you have done one already, considering his recent death, but Peterson was a musical genius and a true gentleman. Unforgettable.
This is why I love C & L, the Late Night Music Club. I hear so many pieces of music that I love, this being one of the finer examples, and much music I had not previously heard, with which I was happy to become acquainted. Thanks so much for posting it!
Stunning! And imagine the muscular control to do that. Absolutely amazing. Sent the link to a few folks -- sincere thanks for this. FWIW, the pianist's home page is amazingly artful:
http://www.wilhelm-kempff.de/index.htm
There are many who would agree with you on that John, it's great fun to watch.
calgarylady @ 38:
Here's some oscar for ya...
John Coltrane, Stan Getz, Oscar Peterson - Hackensack
Andy K Jong Il @ 8:
Wow, I only got so far as your comment, and I wish you were.......uh not such a jackass. If I said to you what I'm feeling right now the site montior would totally kick my off.
Mozart
gn folks, be well.
anon @ 19:
But it's still the "Ode to Joy" symphony. Freude is joy, Freiheit is freedom. This was a concert celebrating the fall of the Berlin wall, thus freedom, but the text is still the same. "JOY"
The first!
Chuck Berry - Roll Over Beethoven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLD5H4uQ1xs&feature=related
I'm a big fan of Ludwig's violin concerto... and Symphony #7.
MarcyJ @ 42:
That's cool, Marcy. It's the reaction I was looking for. :D
I was paraphrasing an '80's punk band, who's name I can't quite recall (Sponge? Or was that the name of one of their songs?) Did you think I was serious? Because wishing death on Beethoven in 2008 is just a bit silly isn't it?
I too love the Beethoven Piano Concertos. The Bach Inventions are monumental when taken in context of 'when'.
My real love, and I can listen to it over and over (yes, I know, a compulsion - illness) is the Khachaturian Piano Concerto. Had a professor in Seminary turn me on to the southern European composers and I just got hooked on the style and handling of the thematic content.
Going to have to dig through some boxes now to find all this stuff...
Gary
Love all Beethoven. Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff come close. I got into Mozart after the movie "Amadeus". I got into Beethoven because of the movie "Immortal Beloved." The music was beautiful. I also think the Chopin pieces in "The Pianist" are beautiful. All are great films.
One thing about photographing musicians in concert. It drives me crazy when they only photograph the head. It's the hands, dummy! Photographing only the head/face would be like photographing Fred Astaire from the waist up. It would be a waste of film.
Based on my copies of the Moonlight Sonata, this pianist had a few clinkers.
This was a good piece, thanks. I love Rachmaninoff's preludes, particular the ones in C# minor and G minor. There is just so much good music to listen to that has nothing to do with rap and pop, and no one seems to pay any attention to it anymore. People can do what they want, but it's just really sad.
You will find artistry in composition like that these days, but not from the likes of Britney.
All Beethoven's "small orchestra" compositions are a treasure, not only his piano sonatas. Here is 1. part of cello sonata no.2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOR_oPIVFNY
The man almost single-handedly ushered in the Romantic era in music. I loved this performance, mistakes and all. But, the Emil Gilels recordings for Deutsche Grammophon are my favorite.
When is the statute of limitations up on opinion of musical masters? 300 years? Come on, go out on a limb, man! Let's see, Chopin, Schumann, Liszt, Berlioz, Wagner, Mahler, Brahms all were completely indebted to Beethoven. Grout dedicated an entire chapter of music history to him.
Thanks for the site.
anon @ 7:
Thanks for that link! That is such an incredibly beautiful piece! I play violin with a youth orchestra and we mangled it so badly when we performed it, but I still loved every minute of playing it. I would love to have another chance to do a better job of it. The funny thing is that I cannot stand most of Aaron Copeland's pseudo cowboy movie music, so for him to criticize Barber is ridiculous.
Andy K Jong Il @ 8:
I can't believe you know the Shaggs! My pal foot foot...Now that's obscure enough to override the ludwig hatin' LOL
Here's Solomon Cutner's first movement of the "Appassionata" on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MLXNmGxPCg
And for something completely different Elisso Wirssaladze's brilliant performance of the Ravel Left Hand Concerto: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9k75oGTJ-fU
Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata mvt.
Yeah my nose gets runny at night too.
viennaactress @ 44:
They actually replaced joy with freedom in the text for that performance - celebrating the 'freedom' of east germany.
Janet @ 56:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE4EOHKhl78&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tWP6aYwi5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOk1jdIqVX0
Stereophile has what I consider to be the definitive set of 32 Piano Sonatas by Beethoven, recorded by Robert Silverman and Jon Atkinson on a Bosendorfer. It's out of production at the moment but is due to be reissued this summer some time, in some revamped form. I have the original set and it is a masterpiece.
Yeah,, he hit just a *few* wrong notes there.
EW @ 39:
You're welcome. That's the reason for the LNMC. I was short on time or I might have picked a different version, but I love this piece so much...
Andy K Jong Il @ 8:
Thanks SO much for the Shaggs. I sent it to all my other musician friends who may not know them (it?). I also sent the Ornette Coleman YouTube video. You got a sense of humor, my friend.
Funny, I also thought Horowitz, but then I checked my Beethoven CD with that guy on the cover and it's Kempff.
But is it just me or did it sound really sloppy? I think I heard a lot of wrong notes, some unintentionally uneven rhythms, etc. This is clearly not an easy piece (unlike the first two movements, which are pretty easy and I can mostly play them), but I don't know, some of those arpeggios had some fairly inexact fingerings. Still, one of my favorite pieces!
"Beethoven couldn't hold my jock" _ Wolfgang Mozart
I heard this about 50 years ago. I thought it was the most exciting piece of music I had ever heard and I still feel thay way.
Janet @ 56:
I think everyone should hear The Shaggs at least once in their lifetime, not so much for the aural pleasure, but for the reason that it makes you think. Once every few months I take a listen and try to figure out what they were trying to do...Or were they really trying to do anything at all? It's a good mental exercise.
And I don't hate Beethoven at all. Hell, the guy was a genius. He must have lived and breathed music, the proof shown in the works he produced as he was losing his hearing.
But these classical music threads at the LNMC tend to get a bit....uhm...stodgy. There's a long accepted tradition of pirating the bandwidth on these threads to link something completely off of the OP. So up went the Jolly Roger.....
Donald Waits @ 67:
My pleasure, Donald. Thank you for recognizing my intentions: just having some fun at the LNMC and mixing it up a bit.
I'll admit that I'm not a diehard devotee of Coleman, but his music intrigues the hell outta me. I wanted to link something from his Double Quartet, but the only clips I could find weren't as representative as I'd like them to be. But that clip sufficed in portraying, imo, Ornette's outside-the-box thinking. I don't know how the man's brain works, or why it works the way it does, but I'm glad to know that the guy has been able to put it out there for the rest of us to examine.
The Shaggs, OTOH....I'm glad they put it out there, but I'm even happier that they never produced anything else. Any attempt to follow-up on that lp would have turned out over the top. What would the point have been?
it's not beethoven, but i like it...
how about the banjo/guitar scene in "deliverance"?
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=esl2NNOtHQE
How many wrong notes can you play in a single piece?! And he is doing it to Moonlight sonata!
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