C&L's Late Nite Music Club with Dame Kiri Te Kanawa
I was browsing the internet looking for something completely different when I came across this song, Tarakihi, an old Maori haka sung by New Zealand’s most famous soprano, Dame Kiri Te Kanawa, with a dozen Maori back-up vocalists. When I heard it, the hair on my arms stood up – it is simply breathtaking. The song itself, according to Mahinarangi Tocker, who sang with Dame Kiri, is more than three hundred years old, composed by a Ngati Maniapoto Maori poet who wrote about the sound of cicadas, hiding by night and singing by day. Anyone who’s been in New Zealand in the summer knows intimately the sound of millions of little tarakihi – loud, proud and sizzling with an electric energy – much like this song. And much like New Zealand – a small country with so much big talent.
What gets me most is the interlock between an old Maori haka and a full Western orchestra, that blend of cultural styles a superb testament to the power we have collectively, the beauty of united cultures rather than any attempt to impose one narrow standard on everyone, or to ‘preserve’ a collection of separate ethnic heritages as if in aspic. The whole is greater than the sum of all our different parts. This is the future of music – and hopefully the future for us all.



Interesting piece.
I can't believe I've never heard of New Zealand's most famous soprano before.
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This was my summer album.
Very nice song....I liked it a lot.
I have a hunch that this is a sampled (meaning it lives in a computer) orchestra.
Real live orchestral musicians are expensive, they want health care and then they want to get paid.
Just imagine.
Dame Kiri did a British special of the music of, I think it was, My Fair Lady.
She couldn't hear an interval of one of tunes, meaning she had trouble singing it.
That blew the gig, but… there was a real live orchestra…
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I first became aware of Dame Kiri when she sang at Chuck & Di's wedding.
She is very talented.
I've been reading your work for a long time, John, and you've got a great ear for music.
Keep it up.
John does have a great ear for music, but I chose tonight's music. Just sayin'....
I have seen Dame Kiri in different specials, mainly CBC or PBS type shows...she is just incredible.
I did not know that she was from New Zealand...and I've never heard this piece. It's amazing & such a history to it.
Thank you for posting!
from several things including two musicals I liked as a teen. Never placed her name, now I see!
Nice find, even my current teen liked it. So a hit with two generations of teens here. Read she is retiring next year too.
I love the cultural sounds of the islands. Any island. All islands.
More please.
Nice find nonny.
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Nice post Nonny! I like different. For an interesting movie about the Maori's by Maori's, look up, Once they Were Warriors.
Here's more of something completely different too. I just threw this music video together today. Its a guitar duet we did about two years ago, set to some video footage of Humboldt Bay.
Gray Bay
when the song explodes to life with the backup vocalists.
From everybody's favorite movie. Star Wars.
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"I have a hunch that this is a sampled (meaning it lives in a computer) orchestra.Real live orchestral musicians are expensive, they want health care and then they want to get paid."
Hehe....no offence man but I'd be very surprised if it was a sampled backing track. It *IS* Dame Kiri after all, a global mega/superstar.And it was recorded at #2 Abbey Road, a huge room, which wount be required if the track was computer generated.
Sure orchestras cost money, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a major start of her calibre whos budget doesn't run to real musicians. In fact I believe she'd insist on it. When you're at that level, you dont settle for dinky computer generated tracks
Kia ora!
The samples have gotten exceedingly good, the sample libraries run into the multiple terabytes.
The scheme is you have several keyboard players/programmers and they play the entire score section by section. They end up much cheaper than an entire orchestra.
A top flight orchestra for a week will cost you two hundred thousand dollars. As far as her budget, the budgets are all cut way back.
The recording companies are on the rocks. And she is in the twilight.
So, I would be surprised if she HAD an orchestra. If she had one they would at least use a video clip of it.
As for the state of the art of sampling, here are several demos of the Vienna Symphonic Library
A youtube demo here
Five tracks without video here
The writing credits don't show on my browser but these are all rendered.
The second, third (Fanfare for the Common Man) and fourth track are very good.
The ensemble stuff is credible.
The third track shows the limits of exposed solo brass, they have fewer problems than the solo strings.
The fifth track shows the limits of exposed solo strings, Vienna is very good for the ensemble but there are better solo string packages.
The technological problem has always been the bandwidth for linear samples as opposed to loops.
That is now solved for the most part.
The problem musically can be in the inflection and hers sounds like a rendering to me.
I just listened again, IT IS A RENDERING. And not the equal of the Vienna examples.
Be surprised. And if you are a musician, be dismayed.
After the energy age we will be back to live instrumentalists and they won't be recorded.
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I am familiar with the Vienna series and have used it on occasion. I also use other high end sample series.
I havent time to give a critical listen, but appreciate your post and and will have a listen to the examples you posted ASAP!
In the meantime Ive emailed a friend at EMI in order to get a definitive answer.
Best wishes!
I should add, that as a musician I am always in favor of performance by real live musicians.
And never for the substitution by rendering.
Of course rendering must be done by musicians, of one description or another.
What is different is the technology. The keyboard player now produces the sound of a violin (et al), playing the violin is a lifelong pursuit, simulating the sound might be the pursuit of an afternoon or a week.
I suspect, but it may only be beside the point, that programming will never capture all of the nuance of an actual performance. That it captures enough that we THINK we are hearing reality may be all that can be done and that may be too much for our own good culturally.
The string players (et al) came into a recording studio and played each individual note on their instrument, loudly, softly with the various bowing techniques ad infinitum. These were recorded and prepared into a digital package the components of which can used to simulate a piece of music that the instrumentalist did not play.
A composer can write a score on their computer and hear it in simulation. Or a programmer can do it for them. It can be put out on the internet or even as a commercial release.
Previously, the composers could only hear the music in their own minds until it was performed.
Now sometimes there is very little composition and mostly programming.
We won't turn back the history of technology but we can look for truth in advertising.
What do we say to the musicians who have spent a lifetime perfecting their art and craft if after their sound is sampled they never work again in their lives.
What is there to say for or about a culture in general when the people no longer know anything about what goes into to playing an instrument. The fuller appreciation of the complexity of music comes from having worked out at least some of those complexities oneself.
That is not an original thought on my part, it goes back one hundred years when recorded music first came about.
Amazon on the release here
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I enjoyed this, and I like tunes that raise the hair on my arms. But I cannot forbear mentioning that, as a rugby player with a good solid 15 years invested, that *NO* Haka spins my cerebrum like the one that the New Zealand National Rugby team performs before every match. Not for everyone, I know (and it might make me a bad hippy), but here is a representative example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMCAV6Yd0Y
Aaaargh. I'm on the east coast, and it's after midnight, but now I have to watch a rugby game.
Once were warriors is a fantastic movie! But, like this Haka, not for everyone. After I saw it, I thought "What a great movie! I don't want to watch it again ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJuoP_4Ubp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvrva8NoMLM
I'm not going to get into the sampled/non-sampled debate. I just enjoyed the power and energy of the performance.
That's enough for me.
Faure' Requiem from the digital recording (Pie Jesu #4) from the London Records recording. Actually, the entire CD is GOLDEN listening material, one of the best ever made. Dutoit/Montreal Symphony Orchestra
good find, nonny!
Thanks for posting that.
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